Every Wonders of O rumour currently circulating traces back to the same thin set of signals: a fresh EUIPO trademark, a Dorothy-shaped post-credits beat, and a steady drip of insider chatter. Sorting the credible from the noise is exactly what the roundup below is for.
The Lies of P sequel cycle is unusual because the rumour mill has been running longer than the official marketing has. Round8 and NEOWIZ have stayed quiet on the actual title, the cast, and the setting, which means the community is doing most of the heavy lifting with file-leak snippets, trademark filings, and the NEOWIZ official YouTube channel upload history. This hub tracks the strands that matter, ranks them by how solid the sourcing is, and flags where the conversation is more wishlist than intel.
The Active Wonders of O Rumour Stack Right Now
At any given moment, there are roughly four overlapping lies of p 2 rumor categories that players trade on Reddit, Discord, and YouTube. The list below ranks them by how much independent confirmation each one has, not by how loud the thread is.
| Rumour Thread | Primary Source | Independent Confirmation | Confidence |
|---|---|---|---|
| EUIPO "Wonders of O" trademark | EUIPO filing database | Corporate registry cross-check | High |
| Dorothy / Emerald City setting | Lies of P post-credits scene | Oz imagery in Overture DLC | Medium-High |
| Lies of P 2 leaks from datamined files | r/LiesOfP datamine threads | Round8 staffing leaks | Medium |
| Lies of P 2 insiders naming Switch 2 port | Internal Slack screenshots | PAX Korea staff panels | Low-Medium |
| "Full production" production-stage claims | Investor call transcripts | NEOWIZ hiring posts | Medium |
The order matters because the high-confidence entries (the trademark, the Dorothy scene) are the ones that downstream leaks keep getting retrofitted to. A lies of p sequel leak that contradicts the trademark is almost always a misread, not a counter-signal.
Why the trademark anchors everything else
The single most cited wonders of o rumour is the EUIPO trademark filing itself, because it is the only artefact that is publicly verifiable without trusting anonymous posters. Once the trademark surfaced, every subsequent lies of p 2 leak got cross-referenced against it. If a "leak" did not line up with the trademark classes or the registered name, the community generally dismissed it within a day. The strength of the trademark signal is also why so many other threads get described as "consistent with the filing" rather than proven on their own. A useful primer on the filing itself lives in Wonders of O trademark hub: every clue in the Neowiz EUIPO filing, which is where to start if the rest of this hub reads like noise.
The Dorothy and Oz Layer of the Rumour Cycle
The Oz-flavoured side of the rumour stack is older than the trademark and still drives most of the fan-art and theory content. It started the moment the Lies of P post-credits scene showed a character reading a book of Oz, and it has been reinforced by the Overture DLC's Emerald Tablet questline and the Wizard of Oz references scattered through the Alchemist arc. The result is that any new lies of p 2 rumor now has to either fit the Oz frame or explicitly argue against it.
The reading that holds up best
| Clue | Where It Appears | What It Suggests | Still Open |
|---|---|---|---|
| Oz book in post-credits | Lies of P ending | Setting or thematic bridge | Exact setting role |
| Emerald Tablet questline | Overture DLC | Sequel has its own relic plot | Tablet's sequel purpose |
| "Wonders of O" name | EUIPO trademark | Oz-coded working title | Whether it is final |
| Dorothy visual cue | Concept-style posts | Player-character candidate | Hero or NPC role |
| Yellow Brick motif | Overture environment art | Recurring visual language | Diegetic or set-dressing |
The reason this is more than a theme is that the Overture team went out of their way to add Emerald City imagery to a game that did not need it. Round8 has form for paying off later, and that pattern is the strongest soft-evidence case the Oz frame is real.
Lies of P 2 Leaks: Datamines, Insiders, and Image Dumps
The datamine side of the conversation is messier and more ephemeral than the trademark side, but it is also where the fastest lies of p 2 leaks move through the community. Most start as a screenshot on r/LiesOfP, get amplified by YouTube theory channels, and then either get quietly dropped or get folded into a longer thread about cast or setting. The pattern below is roughly what a healthy lies of p 2 leak lifecycle looks like, and it is the same shape every other major souls-adjacent sequel has followed in the last three years.
| Stage | Where It Lives | Typical Lifespan | What Kills It |
|---|---|---|---|
| Screenshot post | r/LiesOfP, Twitter/X | 24-72 hours | Source fails to verify |
| Cross-platform amplification | YouTube, Discord | 1-2 weeks | Inconsistency with trademark |
| Long-form theory | Subreddit deep-dive | 1-3 months | Sequel trailer drops |
| Patchwork retcon | Wiki edits, lore videos | Until official reveal | Confirmed or debunked |
That is why a "leak" only counts as evidence once it has survived the second stage. The first wave is almost always wrong, the second wave is where the signal sits, and the third wave is where the community narrative hardens regardless of whether the underlying source was real. A useful companion read for this lifecycle is the Lies of P 2 supposedly leaked: what the rumour roundup actually shows breakdown, which sits at the same level of granularity as this hub.
The Wonders of O Trademark as a Signal Anchor
Because the trademark is the most concrete piece of the puzzle, it deserves its own treatment. The wonders of o trademark tells you three things directly: that the name is registered, that it sits in a specific set of trademark classes (game software, merch, multimedia), and that the applicant matches Round8's corporate structure. Everything else in the rumour stack is interpretation on top of those three facts.
| Trademark Field | What It Says | What It Does NOT Say |
|---|---|---|
| Mark text | "Wonders of O" (or close variant) | Whether it is the final title |
| Applicant | Round8 / NEOWIZ affiliate | Whether it is for the Lies of P sequel |
| Filing jurisdiction | EUIPO, with US parallels | Exact release window |
| Class coverage | Games, video, merch, possibly music | Whether gameplay is single-player or co-op |
| Status | Filed / examined / registered | Marketing timeline |
The temptation is to read the trademark as a release date, but it almost never is. Filings go in well before announcement, get examined, get published, and only then get cited. The useful window is the gap between filing and publication, which is when the community knows enough to speculate but the publisher has not yet decided what to confirm. That gap is also where the bulk of lies of p 2 leak activity concentrates.
Cross-checking the trademark against the leaks
When a new lies of p sequel leak hits a thread, the first sanity check is the trademark. If the leak talks about a title that does not match the registered mark, the source is either misinformed, working from a different project, or just riffing. The second sanity check is the Oz imagery, because anything that contradicts Dorothy or the Emerald City motif is at minimum a partial leak. The third sanity check is the cast, which is where the noisier theories tend to break down. A neat pattern in the conversation is that the more a thread focuses on the cast, the less grounded in the trademark it tends to be, because the trademark tells you very little about who is in the game.
The Reddit and YouTube Side of the Rumour Economy
The places where Wonders of O rumour content actually lives are not official. The official channels are mostly silent. Instead, the cycle runs through a tight loop of subreddit threads, YouTube breakdown videos, and Discord screenshots. The mechanics of that loop are worth understanding because they explain why the same lies of p 2 leak can feel huge on Monday and dead by Friday.
Where the signal actually concentrates
| Channel | What It Does Well | What It Overstates | Worth Watching? |
|---|---|---|---|
| r/LiesOfP | Datamine triage, source vetting | Casting rumours, ending predictions | Yes, sort by Top this week |
| YouTube theory channels | Frame-by-frame trailer reads | Insider access, "confirmed" claims | Yes, but only established creators |
| Discord screenshot drops | Cast and staff speculation | Anything that needs Round8 NDA breach | Treat as raw material |
| Korean fan communities | Production-stage rumours | Title finality, platform split | High signal when translated |
| ResetEra threads | Lore synthesis | Hard release dates | Useful for cross-referencing |
The pattern is consistent with how other major sequels in the genre operate: the loudest voices are not always the most accurate, and the most accurate voices are often the most boring. The lore-heavy synthesis threads almost always outlast the "insider drops a bombshell" posts, because the synthesis work has to reconcile multiple sources, while a bombshell only needs one source to disappear.
The lies of p 2 insiders subculture
A specific strain of the rumour cycle is built around people claiming to be lies of p 2 insiders, and it is the area where the most damage gets done. The community's own immune system is fairly good at weeding these out, mostly because the insiders who know anything useful cannot talk about it without burning their employment, and the ones who do talk almost never get specific enough to be falsifiable. The most useful thing a reader can do with an insider claim is to ask whether the claim is consistent with the trademark and with the production stage that NEOWIZ has signalled to investors. If it is not, the claim is either wrong or about a different project entirely.
Lies of P 2 Leaks vs. Verified News: How to Tell the Difference
The hardest part of tracking a lies of p 2 leak is that the verified news is sparse. Round8 and NEOWIZ have not run a traditional press cycle, and most of the confirmed information has come out through investor calls, platform holder relationships, and the trademark office. Anything else is interpretation, no matter how confident the post sounds.
| Signal Type | Where It Comes From | Verification Path | How Long It Lasts |
|---|---|---|---|
| Trademark filings | EUIPO, USPTO, KIPO | Public registry search | Years |
| Investor calls | NEOWIZ earnings, IR site | Transcript or recording | Until next call |
| Platform holder partnerships | Official press releases | Confirmed by both parties | Until terms change |
| Reddit insider claims | Anonymous posters | Cannot verify | 24-72 hours |
| YouTube leaker channels | Self-described sources | Cannot verify | Until debunked |
| Datamine threads | Game files | Reproducible by community | Until patched |
The two columns on the right matter. Verified news is durable, and the unverifiable claims are not. A reader who only trusts the durable columns will miss the cast and setting details, but they will also avoid the worst of the churn. A reader who wants the cast and setting details has to accept that they are working with shorter-lived information, and the way to compensate is to wait for at least one independent confirmation before treating a claim as part of the picture. The general rule that holds up across the genre is that the more a claim affects a player's pre-order decision, the longer the reader should wait before believing it.
Where the Wonders of O Rumour Cycle Is Headed Next
The next two or three months are the most consequential for the rumour cycle, because the trademark is in its pre-publication window and Round8's production-stage claims are about to be tested. Either a marketing cycle starts and most of the rumour stack gets confirmed, or the silence continues and the more speculative threads start to die off. Either way, the durable signals (the trademark, the Oz imagery, the cast crossovers) will still be valid, and the ephemeral ones (insider drops, datamine claims) will get filtered out.
The pragmatic way to use this hub is to keep one tab on the trademark registry, one tab on r/LiesOfP, and one tab on the Lies of P 2 beginner guide: everything we know so far as a clean baseline for what is confirmed. Anything that shows up outside that triangle is, at best, a data point, and at worst, a wishlist dressed up as a leak. The trick is not to believe everything, but to know which threads are worth the time to read carefully and which are only worth scanning.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is the most reliable Wonders of O rumour right now?
The EUIPO trademark filing is the most reliable current rumour because it is publicly verifiable through the EUIPO registry. It confirms the name and the applicant, but it does not by itself confirm the setting, the cast, or the release date. Treat the trademark as the anchor and everything else as interpretation on top of it.
How do I tell a credible lies of p 2 leak from a fake one?
Cross-check the claim against the trademark, the Oz imagery from the post-credits scene, and the production stage that NEOWIZ has signalled to investors. A lies of p 2 leak that contradicts any of those three is almost always wrong or about a different project. A lies of p sequel leak that lines up with all three is worth taking seriously, even if the source is anonymous.
Is the Dorothy theory confirmed by any lies of p 2 leak?
Not directly. The Dorothy visual cues come from the Lies of P post-credits scene and the Overture DLC, not from a leak. What the leaks add is a setting description that is consistent with the Oz frame, which is why the Dorothy reading has hardened even without a smoking-gun screenshot.
Will more lies of p 2 leaks surface before the official reveal?
Almost certainly yes. Round8 is in active production, the trademark window is open, and the community's datamine infrastructure is well established. The pattern across comparable sequels is a final wave of file leaks in the four to eight weeks before the marketing cycle starts, which is when the cast and setting details usually harden.